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Bonanzle Growing Up: An Introduction to Item Traits
bharding Apr 20, 2009

Bonanzle Growing Up: An Introduction to Item Traits

Another major milestone in Bonanzle's development was reached today when we added detailed "Item Traits" for our categories.  "Item traits" is the name we've given to structured data fields we're now taking.  For example, if you are listing a handbag, there may be item traits available for "material," "brand," and "main color." 

Why is this a big deal?


Red or yellow or green or blue? With item traits, you'll find that shoe!
  1. More structured data = easier for buyers to browse inventory.  Without item traits, there is no structured way to browse for a "red" necklace or "Leather" handbag or an "Action" movie or a "Size 10" shoe.  Bigger ecommerce sites than Bonanzle have previously given statistics that sellers can see sales boosted by 30% or more by giving detailed trait information for their items.
  2. A more natural way to give Google Attributes.  We admit it:  setting up Google Attributes for your items can be confusing and time consuming.  It can be hard to know which attributes to use for a given category.  To improve this situation, we have setup our item traits to automatically map to corresponding Google Attributes where possible.  So if you specify your purse is "Leather," we'll automatically add a Google Attribute for [[material: leather]].  You can still manually add Google Base Attributes where you please, but we're hoping that item traits will make Google Attributes more of an afterthought -- only needed by the true Bonanzle overachiever.
  3. Easier to give item recommendations (future).  In eying our future plans to give buyers smart recommendations on what items they might like, traits are a no-brainer way to figure out similarities between items.  The more we know about which items are similar, the more relevant our future recommendations can be.

In the long term, we believe the the benefits of getting structured information about items is going to vault Bonanzle's usability to buyers to a new echelon.  In the short term, you probably won't notice much of a difference.  We are going to wait about two weeks before we add item traits to Bonanzle search, to give sellers an opportunity to setup the traits for their items.  And we're still probably at least a month away from buyer recommendations.  But in building for the future, we see item traits as a key strategic underpinnning of how Bonanzle can continue to build its reputation among buyers as not only a fun  place to shop, but also an efficient  place to shop. 

Note that, as yet, we aren't importing item traits via our item importers, but I'm hoping to get that implemented within the next couple days. 

I've setup some pretty detailed help pages to get our existing sellers off on the right foot in setting up traits for their items.  There are three different ways you can specify traits for your items -- we spent quite a bit of time trying to think through how to make this task as painless as possible, even for those with hundreds or thousands of items. 

Given the number of systems touched by this change, I'd expect some anomalies during its first day or two of existence.  We'll be listening to your reports via support and any issues with item traits fixed up as soon as can be or so.

 Update:  Most people have already noticed this, but I'd like to specifically point out that Google attributes no longer show up on the new item form because it was confusing and problem causing.  You can still add your attributes on the form if you must, but we highly recommend using the batch editor, which is less error prone.  You can still see what attributes you have set by looking there.


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42 responses to Bonanzle Growing Up: An Introduction to Item Traits

the7thpwr says: 04/20/09 at 23:25:49

Another great addition to an already great system! Kudos

sofyblu2 says: 04/20/09 at 23:31:57

LOL Pass the Excedrin It’ll be great once I decifer it LOL

Sofy'sChoice says: 04/20/09 at 23:46:57

How much will bribery cost to get Pottery & Glass done next? Flutter, flutter

Patches says: 04/21/09 at 00:02:51

Great addition!

zanderbooks says: 04/21/09 at 00:21:55

Wow, Bill, you’ve been busy!! So what this generally translates to is better search capability, it sounds like, which is a Very Excellent Thing.

BTW, under the heading “How do I add item traits to my items?”, the link “Here’s a picture of what it looks like” gives me an error page.

Right now I’ve got a ton of questions swirling around in my head, but I’m sure it will all get a lot clearer once actually giving it a try. That’s what I’m hoping, anyway LOL!!

Thank you, Bill!!!

hughesteesandgifts says: 04/21/09 at 00:25:34

Cool! have to go check it out! Hoping for things like tees there will be multiple options for things such as size & color!

AlbatDiscountRetail says: 04/21/09 at 00:38:10

Has anyone told you guys they loved you lately?? Well, I’m going to jump right up and shout it, “WE LOVE YOU GUYS”, of coarse I am speaking for my son and I so as to not upset anyone and get this sent to straight to Drama!!! Thank you so much, I haven’t even looked at that attribute thing, cuz just the idea makes me dizzy, sheila and joshua

bharding says: 04/21/09 at 00:43:11

Additional Q&A available via this forum topic:

http://www.bonanzle.com/forums/4/topics/46952

KimsKorner says: 04/21/09 at 01:46:08

Thanks Bill for working so hard on continuing the building and success of Bonanzle and making it better all the time for all of us

wallyh says: 04/21/09 at 03:38:38

Loved the post Bill, or at least the first paragraph, but then I got a Tweet and forgot to read the rest.

starshinin says: 04/21/09 at 04:27:44

always amazing you are!! thanks soooooooooo much for all u do!!

AvocadoLane says: 04/21/09 at 05:04:30

Great progress! Thanks.

ATCC says: 04/21/09 at 05:04:35

Thanks. I was confused, but it was simple using batch editor. That is one thing I like about this site. Simple to list and to edit. Thanks again

kashmir31 says: 04/21/09 at 05:24:35

Fantastic! Thank you for all you do!

PiratesGold says: 04/21/09 at 05:59:18

It just keeps getting better! Thanks so much!!

bloomermo says: 04/21/09 at 06:01:56

Wonderful! Can’t wait to try it…

BrownBagPantry says: 04/21/09 at 06:32:05

Nice job!

AutumnLeaves says: 04/21/09 at 08:04:33

I am so grateful that I found this site and jumped in, Bill you’re the greatest. Those other boyz aren’t too shabby either! LOL

pieper says: 04/21/09 at 09:11:27

Thank you so much! You simply ROCK!

pugs says: 04/21/09 at 09:12:01

sending a virtual hug for the help with attributes… MUCH appreciated

graphicsbymoondog says: 04/21/09 at 09:56:44

I can’t wait to jump in and start trying out the new features!

Thanks as always!

mrsmoondog

OurDresserToYours says: 04/21/09 at 09:57:04

Wonderful news…Hurray for better search tools!

You guys are terrific! Thanks for knowing where to spend your valuable time. This will help sellers and buyers alike in the best possible way!

Joyfully, Reen
OurDresserToYours

bluepennylady says: 04/21/09 at 11:42:38

Hi,

Oh yes… Now this is cool. Much easier and will be far more intuitive for the sellers. And plus Bill is mapping the Item Traits to the attributes. The “other” site isn’t smart enough to do that. Do you have any idea how much more quickly this is going to push the Bonanzle listings ahead of the “Other” sites listings!

Doing the happy dance all over my desk..

Judy/blue

BookbinEtc says: 04/21/09 at 12:32:03

This sounds really awesome! I look forward to diving in to the traits.

Buyer recommendations – Please tell me this is NOT similar to the ‘Worst Match’ so hated ‘over there’.

Abbysantiques says: 04/21/09 at 14:13:03

Thanks!
Was really easy to do. Well thought out like everything else you boys do.

SherAhnn says: 04/21/09 at 15:23:38

Great ! Just what I have been wanting. Hope It will pick up an item with combined colors, such as Red, White, and Blue or Blue and Green.

Sher

fromlu2you says: 04/21/09 at 16:15:37

Wonderful!! This will make searching so much easier!!
One step at a time, Bonanzle continues to reach greatness!!

mcbryn7923 says: 04/21/09 at 17:17:19

Wonderful, just checked it out and I love it. Thank You

BARNTIQUES859 says: 04/21/09 at 20:02:36

well aren’t we the annal ones-I love it-git ’er done; and such

madison says: 04/21/09 at 20:47:27

Great! Bonanzle is growing up!

sdkjek says: 04/22/09 at 00:42:16

I’ve already added numerous comments to the Q&A thread about traits tracking real-time ease of using this! Thanks so much for getting this goin’!

tomwayne1 says: 04/22/09 at 01:46:10

… and the hits just keep on comin’

momof3inpa says: 04/22/09 at 07:57:50

This just reaffirms my confidence,expectations,and jumping up and down joy for Bonanzle!!!! We will overcome, overtake, and laugh all the way! Thanks so much Bill for all of your hard work for all of us!

Tshirts says: 04/22/09 at 11:13:30

Keep up the good work, You guys and gals are the BEST

iopen24hrs says: 04/23/09 at 00:08:35

wow you guys made the confusing job become very easy to use now. Great !~!!

yellowsand1964 says: 04/23/09 at 10:35:53

well another way to count in the great job Bonanzle does

ty

Mary

STBThreadworks says: 04/24/09 at 09:02:29

After reading your post, I searched my items and discovered that I had multiple items listed separately. So, I just went in and deleted the multiples, using instead the “multiple” inside of the original listing.

It appears that everything goes a lot faster when you clean up stuff like that!

Now, I have about 30 less items to search for traits! Great idea, Bill. This is an incredible simplification for all users.

STBThreadworks says: 04/24/09 at 09:13:34

One question, Bill. I just went into several of the hardback sewing reference books listed and don’t see the correct book category to post to. Hobbies & Crafts is under magazines but not an option under books. Do we just use “other?” Seems like too much would have to be put into that category, burying the specific category. Thanks. Sorry if you already addressed this issue elsewhere.

Foxy_Lady_Boutique says: 04/25/09 at 15:30:32

I try and get most of the Key Search Words in Title Line, Designer, Item, Size, Color, Material, New. It works. Now it will be even better, Thanks Boyz.

RebekB18 says: 04/26/09 at 13:52:45

Sorry, but this just seems to make the system more complex, when what was beautiful about it was its simplicity. It is easy enough to go into a category and search both titles and descriptions for keywords. All these “traits” should be in the listing description already if they were important.

But if it’s here to stay, a couple comments on the traits for antiquarian & collectible books:

Having printing year in books makes it almost impossible to save these as “profiles,” as every book will have a different print year. Booksellers will have to edit almost every listing individually.

A key trait that is missing from the list is “signed” — besides first editions, this is often what collectors are looking for. Signed and Limited would be even better as options.

“Leather” is not specific enough, as books can be full leather, half, 3/4 and 1/4 leather

Also I was wondering why the traits for antiquarian books are so much less than for the regular books category. Publisher matters a great deal for some antiquarian books, as do edition details beyond whether the book is a first (later editions are often materially different).

Thanks, Rebekah, Coelacanth Books

judyfruendt says: 05/04/09 at 13:21:51

hugges to you mark and all the rest of the workers at bonanzle .
Bonanzle ROCKS

HappySafeBaby says: 05/09/09 at 17:28:57

You guys keep on coming up with all the coolest features!

Could “traits” be imported using the Inventory feed like Google “attributes”? For example, could Bonanzle maybe scan the description for Google “attributes” and if any “traits” match the Google “attributes” in the description for the item’s selected category, just go ahead and assign any matching “traits” to the item?

Would save us sellers that are already using Google “attributes” GOBS of time!

Just an idea…
Joanne


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